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12 May 2011 @ 04:55 pm
This makes me feel disheartened every time...  
...people edit my subs and remove all the credit yet again.

So I was in the middle of subbing Umareru, and needed a little break. Surfed around several sites and saw Raiou subs uploaded on one. Instinctively I clicked on the link out of curiosity (not really, I knew what was going to happen), scrolled through the subs, and realized my credit was removed. Boom!

Now the rant shall start.

Apparently, there are reasons why I don't f-lock my lj and don't hardsub anything. Why? Because I think softsubs are more convenient. Both for me and for others. If I have to start hardsubbing, I'd rather stop subbing altogether. And I don't f-lock anything because I don't see the point of not sharing something I love. But these people are making it so hard for me not to impose one of those things.

I admit I'm not the nicest person on earth. I'm bitchy and in mood swings way too often. But must they go and make me feel this terrible now, right after I just got to know some of the nicest people here just a day ago?

You may say that it is inevitable that there will still be people doing that, no matter what. I am aware too, that's why I try to distance myself from those kinds of forums or websites that post subs without credit. Not that I know many of them anyway, and I don't have that kind of free time. Even if I do, I'd still better off subbing something rather than stalking their page, stalking the people who post my subs and asking them (nicely) not to post the subs whatsoever. But alright. I have just this one request to people who ARE GOING TO POST MY SUBS ANYWAY. Keep those things away from me. Which means, if I know you and your page (mostly lj), then don't you ever post my subs there, if you still want the subs to keep coming! It's not a threat, it's just reality.

/end rant. Sorry for the aggravation.
· Jaida ·jaidajaida on May 12th, 2011 11:16 am (UTC)
It is disappointing and frustrating at the same time...
This happens again and again in different forums and lj.
All they get is that those who are dedicated to subbing not want it anymore...
They do not understand something as simple as respecting the other's work.
I only can say is "ganbare", but I know you will feel very upset.

Take care~
Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 12th, 2011 11:40 am (UTC)
Hi there. Thanks for your supportive words. The purpose of this post is only to ventilate my exasperation. Nothing more. I'm not gonna stop subbing so easily ^^

I'm feeling better already. Thanks for the comment :)
(no subject) - janinebr on September 9th, 2011 06:02 pm (UTC) (Expand)
akage_meakage_me on May 12th, 2011 11:34 am (UTC)
We don't know each other, but I just want to tell you that I understand your reaction.
These people should not be proud to ownership of your work. But it seems that it happens so often.

Take care, and thank you for everything you do.
Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 12th, 2011 11:54 am (UTC)
It does happen too frequently. Could be one of the reasons why fansubbing is going down these days. Anyway, I just needed to get my frustration out. Thank you for your understanding :)
twentyeytakotwentyeytako on May 12th, 2011 11:54 am (UTC)
awww, i'm so sad to hear that dear. i'm really thankful to you and to all the subbers around. without all of you, i wouldn't understand a thing they're saying in the dramas. it really is hard to stop all of this people from posting and i really hope you won't quit subbing because of this. i'll continue to support you and the others. :)
Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 05:55 am (UTC)
Thanks so much dear <3
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Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 09:47 am (UTC)
I'm glad I vented my frustration here, because I could receive so many supportive words from others and you :) Thanks so much.
Lunitarixlunitarix on May 12th, 2011 01:34 pm (UTC)
There's a segment on the radio show in my area that "wishes for diarrhea on people that suck". I hope for that on the people that did this to you.

It's horrible when others steal work that not theirs. I really appreciate all your work - without subbers like yourself I wouldn't be able to fully enjoy the wonderful dramas and movies.

Have a good day!
Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 09:49 am (UTC)
That radio show is humorous. Maybe I can make a list of people I wish to have diarrhea every week to vent my anger or something :)) Great idea. Thank you.
Rannomanymore on May 12th, 2011 02:22 pm (UTC)
I posted a sub from other source without knowing it's yours (they didn't give credit and the raw isn't from ourhour either). I'll double check next time ^^,
Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 10:01 am (UTC)
Thanks for your understanding, ran :)
(no subject) - itonobara on June 24th, 2011 09:03 pm (UTC) (Expand)
nana_komatsu7: Moulin rouge kissnana_komatsu7 on May 12th, 2011 02:44 pm (UTC)
if I can say something... I'm a subber too, and I think it's not fundamental that you don't think hardsubs are not interesting to you... because they are convenient for other people for lots of reasons...
if I respect you and I want to make hs from your soft and share them, I MUST contact you and asking you permission, because it's your work, not mine. And if you allow me to use your work, credits are not an option U_U
Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 10:15 am (UTC)
Hi Nana. I think hardsubbing could raise the risk to fansubbers because they are using the video which are not theirs. Many people don't see anything wrong with hardsubbing using softsubs they got from subbing groups and uploading the subbed video onto streaming sites, but in a certain sense, that would also raise the risk for the original subbers, because that way, the video is more easily propagated and found by... IDk people who could give them trouble. But I diverged. The thing is, some people think that fansubbers are having double standard because we illegally use the raw video to make the subs, and then ban others from distributing the subs against our will (do you see the reasoning?). But I can't see the sense in that line of reasoning at all, because the subs are made from the subbers' hard work, and they are entitled to set the rules regarding the non-redistribution polity of their subs... IDK why I'm writing all this. Sorry, it got long :P
(no subject) - nana_komatsu7 on May 14th, 2011 12:35 pm (UTC) (Expand)
flown33nflown33n on May 12th, 2011 02:53 pm (UTC)
I'm not very good in cheering people up..

But be that as it may, there are those people who will really get on your nerves, which really suck.
But still, there are those people who really appreciate your effort and love your work.

Just continue what you love.. At the end of the day, what matters are the good things, right? :)

People need to learn more of how to be respectful and considerate of others~
Yui: ninoreverieyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 06:20 am (UTC)
You've done more than just cheering me up, Flow :) Thank you.
fasha_chanfasha_chan on May 12th, 2011 04:02 pm (UTC)
Eh? I'm not saying that i'm super shocked because there are people who loves to steal things from others. So, if you feel like pissing off, go ahead because you should! I mean, it's not that easy to come up with a sub.. I totally understand! The thing is i hate the most is when people who actually obeys or follows the rules are the one who got punished and not those who actually bend those rules.. Arghh.. i can't really stand this type of people. But there's nothing much we can do, that's the reality.

I hope this won't re-occur to you and don't let this disappoint you that much.. Keep on working hard, many are cheering you on! :)
Yui: arashiyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 06:26 am (UTC)
Thanks, fasha :) I know you'll be cheering me on <3
goren_solvesgoren_solves on May 12th, 2011 04:07 pm (UTC)
Aww...I'm sorry to hear that, that IS annoying, people taking ur stuff and not even crediting it to you (at the very least)....

Well I hope the dumbnuts that do that don't completely discourage you from subbing, coz there are still, I'm sure a lot, of people that aprreciate your subs and abide by the basic rules of not reuploading and such...

To the dumbnuts: http://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/talk/md05_sick.gif
Yui: arashiyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 06:19 am (UTC)
LOL. Thank you :)
berr1berr1 on May 12th, 2011 08:39 pm (UTC)
I don't really get why other people steal your work and say it's their own. No one will be thankful, because the truth always comes out. If they want people to thank them they should just translate themself...oh I think they can't speak japenese...or they are to lazy...such people are annoying!

Don't be dishearted! We are all on your side!^^
But if you ever fell like it, you can always rant about it, because we will listen, ehm read^^)
Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 09:58 am (UTC)
Apparently people who get the subs from their pages will still be thankful, but that's another story :) Thanks for reading my rantings ^^
aoi_enmaaoi_enma on May 12th, 2011 10:28 pm (UTC)
i`m sad when i read your post ...
there`s so many people who like that , claiming and not respect other`s work :(
it`s hard to control that kind of people in cyber world but i hope they would moved by your post ...
ganbatte kudasai! fighting! :D i always support your sub

btw to people who do it, don`t you know it`s hard even to make one sub??! please respect other`s work .... think about the creator did hard work to make just one sub .... i hope you understand ...
★♫♥ get wild, save the world ♥♫★: 'Hug?' yokomiya_april on May 13th, 2011 07:36 am (UTC)
:( I know it's frustrating... We at eitokickass have gone through this over and over. Even this past week or so >< But don't give up! I support you! Ganbare! ^^
Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 06:16 am (UTC)
Thanks miya. I'm sorry to hear that the same thing happens to your subbing community too. Let's do our best together then! :)
(no subject) - miya_april on May 14th, 2011 09:21 am (UTC) (Expand)
sofiasofia_kat_tun on May 13th, 2011 12:01 pm (UTC)
well, it can be pretty annoying I guess...
I don't understand why some people do so either :S
but as you said, no matter what warnings you post, this will most likely continue..
I want u to know this though: there ARE people who respect and appreciate your hard work and will continue to support you..
and to those f****ng morons: GET LOST!!!!!!!
that's all I've got to say.
Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 13th, 2011 12:36 pm (UTC)
Apparently some have never subbed in their lives and never knew how it feels to have their work stolen. Anyway, I'm alright now :) just vented a little. Thanks, Sofia :)
(no subject) - sofia_kat_tun on May 13th, 2011 12:55 pm (UTC) (Expand)
k1s3k1 on May 13th, 2011 05:44 pm (UTC)
this has been a major issue with fansubbers in the last few years unfortunately (streaming sites, reuploads etc)

sadly it's just impossible to stop people from doing what they want once files hit the internet.. :(

the only thing that can be done is just to continue on for the real fans of your work :)
Yuiyuizaki_libra on May 14th, 2011 10:00 am (UTC)
Yes, I'm sure you've been around much longer than I have, so you must have experience these kinda things many times. That's why I'm really amazed at how you and some others can keep at it for such a long time. Kudos to you :)